The Anti-Christs (Demiurge)

There are three divine beings. The true Gods (the I AM’s), the false gods/idols (the demiurge/anti-Christs), and the dark lords (Satans). The Satans live in the realm of darkness (hells), the true gods and false gods both live in the realm of light, but the false gods become the Devils of the next cycle.

The true Gods are what they are. They do not crave or like worship. They are simply the beings of the higher levels who do their best to serve and help those of the lower levels progress (because that the type of people they are).

The false gods (demiurge/anti-christs) are created by the people in the same way that Israel disobediently created Saul and David to be their kings. The blind masses want a celebrity to worship. They want a king to rule them. They want a golden calf to dance around and they create these in their own minds… then an egocentric individual steps into the mold created by the masses. If he does not live up to the mold, he is overthrown from office and a new sycophant is inaugurated. They pretend to rule the masses, but in reality, the masses rule them. They are puppets.. the puppet rulers of the true Gods. The true Gods oversee and have power over all mortal and immortal existence. But they wish for people to rule themselves and always do their aiding and managing in a laissez-faire manner. But when the people want a king or god… they give the people what the want. They let them select some poor puppet and allow the people to carve them into what the masses crave, all the while knowing that the fate of all idols is the axe and the fire.

So then what is the difference between a true God and a false God (demiurge)? Simply put, one wants to be God and is thus directed from below (the masses), and the other has no real desire to be God and thus is humbly directed from above. One is slave to his subjects and the other is subject to his father only. Look at the difference in attitude between Jesus and Lucifer…

1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.
2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.
3 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;
4 And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.

The Church of the Devil (Satans) is the whore of all the earth. But the anti-christ/demiurge is a whore too. It is one who offers sexual union with only the flesh. One who masquerades at-one-ment with only one aspect of their being. The flesh is not the soul. It is only one aspect of the soul… a covering that hides spirit. Both man and God have many layers and to “know” God or another individual is to know and love all their layers. Because of the law of one, it is often true that a person with a beautiful body has an opposite and equal ugliness to some aspect of their spirit being. True union in the marriage chamber entails accepting and embracing the whole individual both beautiful and ugly. A whore offers only the flesh in a union that is far from oneness. It is a selfish union where energy transfer is not equal. It drains and distorts.

So it is with the demiurge. He offers one aspect of the ONE TRUE GOD and says I am GOD, know me and gain eternal life. And yet he does not reveal his whole self nor does he give it. He selfishly takes and leaves his “subjects” drained and violated. His does not offer true at-one-ment for he has not yet truly at-oned himself. He does not reveal both his “good” and his “bad” nor does he lift his brethren up with him. He does not tell man that he was once like them and that they are one step behind being his equal. He does not unclothe his first and his last, his beauty and his uncomelyness nor his wrath with his patience.

It’s no mistake that the same Hebrew & Greek words that Christ uses in John 17 saying that life eternal is to “Know” God, is also used to describe procreation in the Bible. Knowing God is like “knowing” a man or a woman. It is a very sacred and deep parallel. Man is hidden beneath clothing because his glory is too much for the innocent. But both Man and God were initially clothed with the intention of being revealed. Those who are afraid of reading another’s religious texts or scripture are like those who are afraid of seeing another uncovered. To unclothe God is to play with fire and one must take care not to get burned. But if we seek truth to be our bride then we must get past the covering which has been placed on her to truly know her. We will not change the truth by uncovering it. The fear of “false doctrine” is like the fear of falsely judging a bride to be. A fool-hearty youth may be allured to marry fine clothing only to find that it covers hideous tattoos and blemishes. She may marry a handsome body only to find it covers a hideous soul. But in the end, one must learn that clothing, body and soul are all aspects of that individual, and to love the individual one must know and accept all of its aspects. So it is with God and his truth. A fool-hearty youth may be led to many false judgments about God by judging the appearance of one of his coverings. But in the end, to “know” God is to know and see ALL of his coverings and to learn all aspects of his being. It is to see the meaning and beauty of how the “good” and the “bad” (by our skewed judgments) work together to form his I AM. He IS. BEING HE IS BEING. And to know him one must play with fire… for the ALL CONSUMING FIRE is his name.

There are ample types of the three divine ones in the scriptures. The first born, the last born and the middle. Whether it be Cain/Abel/Seth or Japeth/Shem/Ham or Esau/Isaac/More or Reuben/Judah/Joseph or Laman/Lemual/Nephi/Sam/Jacob, in nearly every instance the firstborn who believes he has earned the right to the birth-right is rejected and the middle-born receives it. The first becomes last and the last becomes first. Scripture suggest that this type plays true for even Lucifer and Christ. The Son of the Morning being the “first born” believed it was his right to rule this world, so when the Father rejected him and his rule declaring Christ to be the firstborn before him, he revolted and took a third of the host of heaven with him.

The secret is that those that make themselves first always are rejected causing a fall to become last. While those who make themselves last are made first by the law of justice… and if they then sacrifice that first estate on the cross, they fall to the middle and become exalted in the center of it. They become the first AND THE last, the alpha AND omega. The true Gods who have at-one-ed the opposites.

So can you solve the mystery? Who is the demiurge? Who is the anti-Christ or the demiurge that will reveal themselves in the last days? The one who is to become the “Master Mahan” of the next cycle?

These are the deep mysteries intended for the inner circle. For the rest of us, we shouldn’t dwell too much on them. Just live a good life and press forward in faith.

Desire & Anti-Desire

On earth we are attracted to the qualities and things we find desirable and repulsed by the things we find undesirable.

But both desire and un-desirableness are two sides of the same fruit. It is the ‘very desirable’ fruit which Eve partook of which brought death into the world. Thus to overcome the death of this new world we must overcome the good and evil which is the fruit of desires of this new world. Both desire and anti-desire. In short you must overcome and outgrow it. A young man or woman may desire a certain new pair of in-style shoes with all their wanting. Later when they outgrow them and they fall out of style and pinch their growing feet they may loath them with all their loathing. But when they grow old they will likely look back and simply not care. They no longer desire nor despise them. They have simply outgrown that childish thing.

So it is with this new world and the things within it. We may desire or despise our bodies or the bodies of others or the beauties or eyesores of the earth or the wealth and poverty and things of this realm. But eventually we must outgrow and overcome them. Likewise when we are growing up we may hate a person only later to fall in love and desire them. But when we take it to the next level and become a sibling in a family with them we may feel changing feelings of love and hate for them as we grow up together through fights and reconciliations. However in the end we arrive to a point where we neither desire nor despise them, but just ‘love’ them because we realize they are a part of us, and to lose them would be like losing a part of ourselves.

We have gotten past the desire and despising of childhood and are just ready to move on with those we have become a part of.

Christ matured to this level. He overcame the flesh and all the desires and temptations of Satan. As a reward he was brought back into the garden of delights… the garden of Eden. He had become innocent like a little child neither desiring nor despising. But he had bound himself to a consort, a holy bride who had wed herself to him at the marriage feast of the father. A holy vessel of Jehovah destined to bare the souls of creation across the sea of _____ . This vessel was Mary, the temple of Hagia Sophia, holy wisdom. In the garden she saw that it was not just to have been begotten through the fruit of the tree of knowledge and not now in turn beget. Sophia allowed her fleshy counterpart to be deceived into partaking of the same fruit which she had worked so hard to overcome the effects of. She partook of desire and in so doing was cast out.

More on the Resurrection

God gives to all men according to their understanding. He teaches Japeth through philosophy without religion because that is what they want. He teaches Ham through polarizing opposites because they cant yet walk a straight line. He gives Shem the greater light through both religion and philosophy because they have found the more balanced middle path. But the greatest of all is those who have not only found the middle (straight and narrow) path, but have actually entered the straight gate which is Christ. To these he gives opportunity of escaping the earthly cycles of death and rebirth into death. To these comes the opportunities of Eternal Life. (Do you understand the deep meaning of these cliche’s?)

The prophets of Japeth were commissioned by the Eloheim through the ministering of the Terrestrial to give their people the truth they would have. So too with Shem and Ham. The teachings of Brahma and Buddha were the highest an unenlightened people could receive… but although subject to the law of one/agency (link), “true” for them, and ever pointing to the two final gates. Eternal Darkness and Annihilation through the gates of the dark lords, or Eternal Life and Exaltation through the Gate of the Lord(s) of Light… and the rebirth/continuation of cycles for all who haven’t yet laid hold of the rod, which is the Word.

In the parable of the wheat and the tares we learn all we need to know of the resurrection and the true state of those that do and dont make it…

“37 …He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.” (Matt 13)

Do you have ears to hear? Have you searched out the deeper meaning? The God of the whole earth planted a field. Year after year, season after season, cycle after cycle, world after world he plants the same field. At the end of the yearly season he harvests. Some of the harvest goes to feed the Masters and His servents and some of the wheat goes to replant the next years crop, but all of the tares, stuble and weeds go to the fire to be returned to their mother earth. They go into the pain of earthly regeneration to suffer and then try again to grow next season. As the Lord said

“5. Jesus answered, Verily I say unto you except a man be born again of flesh and of spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and ye hear the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it cometh or whither it goeth.
6. The light shineth from the East even unto the West; out of the darkness, the Sun ariseth and goeth down into darkness again; so is it with man, from the ages unto the ages.
7. When it cometh from the darkness, it is that he hath lived before, and when it goeth down again into darkness, it is that he may rest for a little, and thereafter again exist.
8. So through many changes must ye be made perfect, as it is written in the book of Job, I am a wanderer, changing place after place and house after house, until I come unto the City and Mansion which is eternal.”

But not so with those who enter the gate of Christ, overcoming the flesh and being born of the Spirit. Those who overcome the flesh have no need to be born into it again. To them the resurrection is not the regeneration of mortality, To them the resurrection is the rising into the Spirit. They will receive their bodies again, but they will not be the bodies of flesh & blood in a cycle of death, but a body of flesh and spirit in a cycle of life. Reincarnation is not taught to the saints because it is not true to the Saints. The Saints will come forth triumphant, flying through the air with Christ at his coming to inherit a new heaven and earth wherein death has been conquered. But the tares… the whore of the earth, they shall be thrown into the fire of regeneration. They inherit death because they would not accept life.

Do you see the importance in helping to gather? In saving souls from death and the purifying fire. How much better to willingly put ourselves under the purifying fire of the Spirit, than to have to unwillingly be thrust back into the purifying fire of the regeneration of death. No one wants thier memories and souls to be purged. How much better it is to purge yourself during life, than to be forcefully purged by death. How important it is to help others see that this life is not life but death! Those who have not been born again are not yet alive! Until you are truly born by the water and the spirit (not just in flesh but in spirit) you are still dead. This life is an illusion, but by a spiritual rebirth one can be awakened from the illusory dream that is this death to the reality of true life where our food and drink are Christ and the false shadows of this world’s materialism are replaced for the true riches of heaven of which the shadows are types.

Are you the wheat of the Lord? The pure oblation offered at Shavuot to commemorate the end of the Harvest cycle? Are you the first fruits of the vine, a holy sacrifice unto the Lord? If we are to be harvested we must be acceptable. Would you like to eat rotten fruit or rancid wheat? By partaking of the flesh (bread) and blood (wine), or emblems of the Body of Christ we become One with him… for truly we are what we eat. His heavenly body and blood replace ours as we partake of him so that eventually our fleshy bodies of death are replaced or regenerated by the Spirit of life. But at-one-ment works both ways. If we are the fruit of the vine then we are in Christ and he is in us. As we partake of him, he also partakes of us. Saved souls are food to the angels and future seed for the earth. We cannot be saved without our dead because they need us just as much as we need them, and only when we are One can ascend to the all-highest. Stagnation breads death, eternal movement brings life. The Body of Christ or the communal consciousness of raised man who have made themselves equal with Christ and of whom he is the head, neads to the grow and expand or it will begin to die. This is why we work together in unselfishness like individual cells in a body or plant seeking for the best of souls with which to bring to the marriage feast of the Lord so that the father and mother may beget a son who may one day become the father himself. That the Spirit of Life may flow through our sacred hearts and transfer the energy of God from head to heart to hands and feet and then back again in a cirle of life spiraling upward.

He who hath ears to hear…

But the questions remain. How do we know that we have truly overcome death? Is there any way judge ourselves and others to know if we have really made it yet? What percentage of “good”, believing, law keeping, loving and faithful individuals are ready to accend? All of them, or do many of us need more refining? What are the laws which govern readiness? I know we judge ourselves at the final bar, but what illusions hold us back?


To Go No More Out. Reconciling Reincarnation & Resurrection


Five times in the Book of Mormon, and once in the New Testament we are introduced to the phrase “to go no more out”, which I suggest may be telling us much more than we might initially guess. In fact, the restorationist Gospel of the Holy Twelve suggest that the phrase (as well as a few other cryptic references to a type of reincarnation) might be a remnant of one of the many “plain and precious truths” that the Book of Mormon tells us were eradicated from the Jewish Canon by pre exilic reformers. This misunderstanding and bias against the concept of reincarnation was then perpetuated by early western Roman or Gentile Christianity. In this article I’d like to through these phrases and use a few restorationism texts to speculate as to how they might help to reconcile the doctrines of reincarnation and resurrection.

Alma 7:25 reads:

25 And may the Lord bless you, and keep your garments spotless, that ye may at last be brought to sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the holy prophets who have been ever since the world began, having your garments spotless even as their garments are spotless, in the kingdom of heaven to go no more out.

This principle seems simple enough. The righteous gain rest in the kingdom of heaven, where they “go no more out”. But lets look a little closer and then think of the implications. Alma exhorts his people here to not only be righteous enough to be permitted to attain the kingdom of heaven, but it is his prayer that they might have garments spotless enough that they can enter the kingdom of heaven, and like Abraham, Issac and Jacob, to go no more out. This implies that all but the very most righteous who enter the kingdom of heaven, stand the chance of entering and in some way going back out.

Lets look at the phrase again as it is given in the book of Revelation:

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. (Rev. 3:12)

It’s not hard to see there is some deep symbolism portrayed in these verses. We see that ‘going no more out’ has to do with ‘overcoming’ the world. It has to do with getting a new name or identity which is the name of God. It has to do with obtaining a heavenly city; the new Jerusalem. There are three other references to “going no more out” of the kingdom of heaven in the Book of Mormon, but before looking at more LDS scripture, lets first take a look at the insights the restorationist book The Gospel of the Holy Twelve (which supports my points but isn’t necessarily required to get there). The book is supposedly a “restored” version of the New Testament Gospels which were channeled to a Reverend Ouseley from angelic beings who claimed to have found and translated the text from a early Christian manuscript found in Tibet. It’s a spurious text, but insightful none the less.

1. As Jesus sat by the west of the Temple with his disciples, behold there passed some carrying one that was dead to burial, and a certain one said unto him, Master, if a man die, shall he live again?
2. And he answered and said, I am the resurrection and the life, I am the Good, the Beautiful, the True, if a man believe in me he shall not die, but live eternally. As in Adam all die, so in the Christ shall all be made alive. Blessed are the dead who die in me, and are made perfect in my image and likeness, for they rest from their labours and their works do follow them. They have overcome evil, and are made Pillars in the Temple of my God, and they go out no more, for they rest in the Eternal.
3. For them that have done evil there is no rest, but they go out and in, and suffer correction for ages, till they are made perfect. But for them that have done good and attained unto perfection, there is endless rest and they go into life everlasting. They rest in the Eternal.
4. Over them the repeated death and birth have no power, for them the wheel of the Eternal revolves no more, for they have attained unto the Centre, where is eternal rest, and the centre of all things is God.” (HT 69:1-4)

Regardless of whether this text is true, it weaves together some pretty interesting symbolic wording.  Here the term “to go no more out” is used to uniquely merge the hindu/buddhist idea of Saṃsāra, and the wheel of Dharma with the Christian concept of resurrection and eternal salvation. As I’ll attempt to show in the rest of this article, there are several interesting phrases and concepts in Christian scripture and Mormon theology that could be used to reconcile the idea of reincarnation with the concepts of resurrection. Its a concept that’s not only ubiquitous in near-death experiences and modern channeled texts, but also prevalent in Jewish Kabbalah texts such the Zohar.

As long as a person is unsuccessful in his purpose in this world, the Holy One, blessed be He, uproots him and replants him over and over again. (Zohar I 186b)

All souls are subject to reincarnation; and people do not know the ways of the Holy One, blessed be He! They do not know that they are brought before the tribunal both before they enter into this world and after they leave it; they are ignorant of the many reincarnations and secret works which they have to undergo, and of the number of naked souls, and how many naked spirits roam about in the other world without being able to enter within the veil of the King’s Palace. Men do not know how the souls revolve like a stone that is thrown from a sling. But the time is at hand when these mysteries will be disclosed. (Zohar II 99b. See this article for many other references)


Mormon Reincarnation

The idea that there might be some truth to the doctrine of reincarnation, should be easier for Mormons to consider than most Christians. In fact, the mainstream Mormon doctrine of premortal life actually teaches a loose form of reincarnation that most LDS members don’t see. Although Mormon doctrine concerning the matter generally tries to shy away from specifics, it distinctly teaches that each human being “lived before they were born as spirit offspring of a heavenly father [and heavenly mother]” (see gospel topics). So from a certain perspective, that makes earth-life a re-embodied or second cycle of progression–in fact in Abraham 3:20–26 mortal life is referred to as a “second estate”. This scripture also suggest that mankind’s previous cycle of life included a type of agency that allowed certain souls to progress faster than others.  From one perspective, it might almost seem that the Mormon doctrine of pre-existence might be God’s way of slowly bridging the theological gap between eastern religious views of reincarnation and western Christian views which strongly oppose the idea of any previous life before birth.  Some LDS leaders such as Brigham Young have even specifically taught that this former spiritual birth in the “premortal existence” was accomplished by sexual reproduction.

“[God] created man, as we create our children; for there is no other process of creation in heaven, on the earth, in the earth, or under the earth, or in all the eternities, that is, that were, or that ever will be.”  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 11:122. see here for more references)

Although many traditional Christians deride Mormonism for these teachings, it seems possible that through LDS doctrine seeks to bridge a theological gap to reincarnation by using veiled terms to suggest that people, (1) lived a conscious life previous to their current earth life and (2) were physically/spiritually born to a different set of (divine) parents in that life. Introducing this teaching in veiled and ambiguous language might be necessary because of the strong bias western Christianity has developed (possibly reaching all the way back to disagreements between Jewish sects such as the Sadducees and Pharisees) against even considering reincarnation as a possibility in the scheme of eternal progression. It also might be important because the doctrine tends to promote wild speculation and certain types of excuses for bad behavior.

Within the LDS concept of premortal existence, we might further speculate that the “gods/parents” of whom we are spiritually begotten, might actually have been exalted mortals such as Abraham, who D&C 132 says gained the right of the “continuation of the lives” (D&C 132:22) and “continuation of the seeds for ever and ever” (D&C 132:19).

In fact, by translating the scriptural word αἰῶνος or aiōnos as “age” instead of “world” (as many modern translations do), scriptures used to support random predestination or foreordination, such as Ephesians 1:4 which speak of premortal election “before the world was”, might actually be metaphorically referring to events occurring “before the current age”. (This will be more important as we look at scriptures concerning future resurrections. see Matt 13:39,49; 24:3; 28:20, Heb 9:26, 1 Ne 14:22, Moses 6:7). Even scriptural events which seem to clearly allude to a separate premortal realm or planet, such as Abraham 3:22, might actually be interpreted to support some type of reincarnation of life in a previous cycle of ‘this world’ when one considers scriptures supporting the ancient belief that our current earth has gone through repeated cycles of destruction and re-creation such as the following.

The end [shall] come when the earth shall pass away. And there shall be a new heaven and a new earth; and they shall be like unto the old save the old have passed away, and all things have become new. (Ether 13:8–9)
And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words.” (Moses 1:38)
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (2 Peter 3:6–7)

It seems possible, that all this cryptic symbolic language might simply be using an ambiguous “premortal life” to teach the concept that the eternal progression of souls is a lot more lengthy and complex than many suppose. There are a few verses in the New Testament which could be used to suggest that at least a portion of the Jewish people held to some form of this idea of cyclical rebirth of prominent individuals across certain “ages” or master cycles. Look at Matt 11:13–15 for instance which says, “For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, he [John the Baptist] is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” Another example is found in Matt 17:10–12, “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things, But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not… [speaking] of John the Baptist.” Even if we suppose that Elias/Elijah is just a title/function that John the Baptist assumed, its hard to not see a Jewish belief in reincarnation in scriptures like John 9:2 which says “And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?” It certainly seems possible that Judeo-Christian scriptures supports the idea that some of the most noble souls (among those who haven’t exited the Saṃsāra wheel yet) are reincarnated as key figures or even as the father of nations and cultures–becoming the head of entire people’s who reincarnate at given times and seasons or intervals of human history.

The Urantia Book, another spurious channeled text generally against the idea of reincarnation, suggests that it does occur, but never within a single dispensation.

 “A mortal never returns to his native planet during the dispensation of his temporal existence, and if he should return during a subsequent dispensation, he would be escorted by a transport seraphim of the universe headquarters group.” (The Urantia Book, 39:4.15)

In fact the LDS first resurrection itself could possibly be construed as supporting a type of Millennial reincarnation of the righteous depending on your interpretation of the scriptures. In D&C 101 a detailed description of the Millennium is given where we are told there will be infants (birth) but no death,

28 And in that day Satan shall not have power to tempt any man.
29 And there shall be no sorrow because there is no death.
30 In that day an infant shall not die until he is old; and his life shall be as the age of a tree;
31 And when he dies he shall not sleep, that is to say in the earth, but shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye, and shall be caught up, and his rest shall be glorious. (D&C 101:28–31. see also D&C 45:58)

Bruce R. Mckonkie clarified that these infants will be born through natural birth as mortals—and are not to be resurrected until they reach the “age of a tree” and are “changed in the twinkling of an eye” (Mormon Doctrine, p.496-497). Now why would there be mortals and birth in the immortal, paradisiacal millennium? And is there any scriptural indication that these blessed millennial mortals never lived a previous mortal birth? I submit that there is not. For all we know, many who “come forth in the morning of the first resurrection” will come forth by mortal birth just as others “fly through the air with Jesus” (D&C 76:102; 88:96-98; 109:75; 1 Thes 4:17). In fact some significant modern channeled texts seem to suggest that the eschatological nature of the resurrection at Christ’s coming is laced with metaphor. And that the transition of the earth to a millennial terrestrial glory will occur as a natural evolutionary and cosmic process.

63.27 Questioner: I will make this statement, and you correct me. What we have is, that as our planet [is] spiraled by the action of the entire major galaxy… the [terrestrial] vibrations become more and more pronounced. These atomic core vibrations begin to create more and more completely the [appropriate] core vibrations [of the] the [terrestrial] sphere and the [terrestrial bodies] for inhabitation of that sphere. Is this correct?
Response. This is partially correct. To be corrected is the concept of the creation of [terrestrial bodies]. This creation will be gradual and will take place beginning with your [telestial] type of physical vehicle and, through the means of bisexual reproduction, become by evolutionary processes, the [terrestrial] body complexes. (Law of One 63:27)

What’s more, some text suggest that most of the supernatural references to flying through the air to meet Jesus are descriptions of events occurring primarily to spirits in the earth’s heavens (or higher dimensions) as the veils which divide the heavens temporarily drop and spirits who are ready to ascend to the higher, more physically real levels of heaven are permitted to do so. (see Oahspe, book of resurrections) In the next section I will show how the Christian word and concept of resurrection might actually be a dualistic term which symbolically references both mortal re-incarnation as well as the traditional belief of heavenly ‘physical’ incarnation.



The Second Death and Telestial Resurrection as a reference to Reincarnation

The word biblical word resurrection comes from the Hebrew יְקוּמ֑וּן / yekumun or Greek ἀνάστασις, εως, ἡ / anastasis, which literally mean to stand up, awake or rise again. As such it stands as the antithesis or reversal of the biblical concept of the fall from immortality or spiritual death.

The Bible, LDS Pearl of Great Price and endowment actually presents a narrative similar to the Eastern concept of a souls descent into Māyā (duality or illusion). The drama symbolically points to the idea that an eternal aspect of Mankind (symbolized by Adam), existed with God before his earthly or mortal body was created (cycle 0). Later, his eternal spirit was veiled in flesh or placed in a body God created for him in a paradisiacal immortal earth (cycle 1). It was also then separated into two aspects (man and woman). Because of sin, this divided mankind then falls from this immortal (or spiritual) eternal abode in God’s partial presence and becomes a mortal living in a fallen earthly hell subject to death, sin and the temptations or illusions of the devil (cycle 2). In this mortal cycle mankind goes through many different stages of priesthood and changing laws to awake or rise again back through the various layers of redemption, resurrection and unification. To reverse the effects of the three cycle fall, Christ came to help show us how to rise from the death and sin of this temporal earth and return to live immortally and eternally with God once again— and eventually to attain complete moksha or unity with him (John 17:11–22).

Another verse in the Gospel of the Holy Twelve follows this same line of thinking to suggest that the word resurrection might actually be have dual metaphorical meaning in Christian scripture. One which corresponds to Eastern religious traditions.

2. As all creatures come forth from the unseen into this world, so they return to the unseen, and so will they come again till they be purified. Let the bodies of them that depart be committed to the elements, and the Father, who reneweth all things, shall give the angels charge over them, and let the presbyter pray that their bodies may rest in peace, and their souls awake to a joyful resurrection.
3. There is a resurrection from the body, and there is a resurrection in the body. There is a raising out of the life of the flesh, and there is a falling into the life of the flesh. Let prayer be made For those who are gone before, and For those that are alive, and For those that are yet to come, for all are One family in God. In God they live and move and have their being. (GHT 94:2-3)

Here we see a dual use of the word resurrection; using it to refer to both reincarnation in addition to a somewhat traditional meaning. “Resurrection from the body” or “raising [it] out of the life of flesh” being a type of resurrection referred to in the traditional Christian interpretaion as well as Alma 40:15–18 and ubiquitously used in the channeled text Oahspe. (see my article Cosmology for more details on heavenly ascension/resurrection). And “resurrection in the body” or “falling into the life of the flesh” which seems to be referring to reincarnation.

What I would like to suggest by using LDS scripture, is that part of the “resurrection of damnation” (see John 5:29) is being forced to cycle between spiritual and earthly hell (telestial glory) through reincarnation. Whereas spirits worthy of the “resurrection of life” (John 5:29, Mos 16:11, 3 Ne 26:5, D&C 19:6–12) escape the second death and are freed from the cycle of rebirth “to go no more out”.

The Book of Revelation teaches that those who are redeemed to “go no more out”, also escape the “Second Death”. Following the scriptural phrase “second death” through its multiple uses seems to suggest it might also be a dualistic term which actually refers to to both spiritual hell (at death) and mortal reincarnation (at the time of resurrection). so in one case it may refer to those telestial glory souls who at the time of resurrection return to the telestial earth by rebirth (D&C 76:84 defines a telestial resurrection as hell. ). Rebirth on earth separates souls spiritually from God, just as death reunites the righteous to Him (Alma 12:16). When the righteous die, they pass to paradise, being “taken home to that God who gave them life” (Alma 40:10). However, the wicked who do not overcome the desires of the flesh and sin, take part in the resurrection of damnation where instead of rising to higher more blissful levels of heaven they are “cast out” and resurrected or reborn to earth to pay the karma for their acts and desires.

 24 And now, my son, this is the restoration of which has been spoken by the mouths of the prophets—
3 …it is requisite with the justice of God that men should be judged according to their works; and if their works were good in this life, and the desires of their hearts were good, that they should also, at the last day, be restored unto that which is good.
5 The one raised to happiness according to his desires of happiness, or good according to his desires of good; and the other to evil according to his desires of evil; for as he has desired to do evil all the day long even so shall he have his reward of evil when the night cometh.
15 For that which ye do send out shall return unto you again, and be restored; therefore, the word restoration more fully condemneth the sinner, and justifieth him not at all. (Alma 40:24, 41:3-15)

Read these verses from the Book of Revelation concerning the resurrection. I submit that the “lake of fire” is the telestial glory (both fallen earth life, and the telestial glory/hell of the spiritual realm). Those not in the Book of Life (a symbol of those who have attained a terrestrial or celestial glory and are escaping the rebirth cycle of Saṃsāra), are cast into “the lake of fire” to experience the “second death”.

13 And the sea [group 1] gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell [group 2] delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And [those still found in] death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire [samsara].

Revelation 21:8 explains the type of individuals who experience the “second death” in a bit more detail,

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev 21:8)

Compare this to D&C 76’s words on those of the telestial resurrection, where it speaks of telestial souls who “suffer the wrath of God on earth” (v. 104; the rebirth cycle of Saṃsāra), as well as those who “suffer the vengeance of eternal fire”, those same souls who end up in prison/hell between incarnations.

103 These are they who are liars, and sorcerers, and adulterers, and whoremongers, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.
104 These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth [reincarnation].
105 These are they who suffer the vengeance of eternal fire [damnation at death]. (D&C 76:103–105)

So those who attain a Celestial Glory, go no more out, or in other words they remain in heaven nearly indefinitely to reign with God in a state of nearly nirvanan peace. However, terrestial souls reincarnate, but far less often than telestial souls, and have part in the first resurrection, (once again, resurrection being a dualistic term veiled with its own cryptic symbolism referring to those worthy to be raised to heaven OR reincarnated during the latter-day Golden Age of the cycle when earth attains a terrestrial glory) . Hell-bound or telestial souls, on the other hand, will come forth after this symbolic millennium, in the resurrection of the unjust to continue their cycles of mortal experience after the Golden Age has collapsed and war comes back to give them the miserable conditions needed to learn their needed lessons. Only the “sons of perdition” or those who refuse to learn the lessons of telestial justice and willingly choose to follow Satan (selfishness) after all possible cycles of progression have passed will not be redeemed from the wheel of “second death” (see D&C 76:37).


Illustration of eternal progression

Illustration of eternal progression


A few more references from the Gospel of the Holy Twelve

The scriptures seem to be symbolically veiled and cryptic when referring to the time frame between resurrections as well as the exact nature of those resurrections. But Christian, Islamic, Hindu and Buddhist scriptures seem to make clear that their prophetic authors saw the history of the world divided into cycles, times, seasons and ages. (D&C 43:18)  To some resurrection and rebirth is an individual thing occurring over and over in the same age. To others it is more broad, occurring only into different worlds. In Mormonism, I hope I have shown that there seems to be scriptures supporting both ideas. Concerning the latter, we are taught in Ether, “the end [shall] come when the earth shall pass away. And there shall be a new heaven and a new earth; and they shall be like unto the old save the old have passed away, and all things have become new. (Ether 13:8–9) And as God tells Moses, “And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words.” (Moses 1:38) The goal of all Christ’s followers however, is not to be born again of the earth (telestial reincarnation) or even simply born of the water (terrestrial resurrection in a future cycle of the present or some other temporal world), but to be born again of the Spirit to live “eternally in the heavens (or a celestialized earth which has become like unto the heavens) with God.

In chapter 59 of the Gospel of the Holy Twelve we find another of many clarifying verses which shows the dispensational or cyclical nature of restoration:

11. For they who know the Godhead, and have found in the way of Life the mysteries of light and then have fallen into sin, shall be punished with greater chastisements than they who have not known the way of Life.
12. Such shall return when their cycle is completed and to them will be given space to consider, and amend their lives, and learning the mysteries, enter into the kingdom of light. (59:11-12)

Here are the rest of the scriptures given in the Gospel of the Holy Twelve teaching this new view of the resurrection

1. JESUS sat in the porch of the Temple, and some came to learn his doctrine, and one said unto him, Master, what teachest thou concerning life?
2. And he said unto them, Blessed are they who suffer many experiences, for they shall be made perfect through suffering: they shall be as the angels of God in Heaven and shall die no more, neither shall they be born any more, for death and birth have no more dominion over them.
3. They who have suffered and overcome shall be made Pillars in the Temple of my God, and they shall go out no more. Verily I say unto you, except ye be born again of water and of fire, ye cannot see the kingdom of God.
4. And a certain Rabbi (Nicodemus) came unto him by night for fear of the Jews, and said unto him. How can a man be born again when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born again ?
5. Jesus answered, Verily I say unto you except a man be born again of flesh and of spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and ye hear the sound thereof, but cannot tell whence it cometh or whither it goeth.
6. The light shineth from the East even unto the West; out of the darkness, the Sun ariseth and goeth down into darkness again; so is it with man, from the ages unto the ages.
7. When it cometh from the darkness, it is that he hath lived before, and when it goeth down again into darkness, it is that he may rest for a little, and thereafter again exist.
8. So through many changes must ye be made perfect, as it is written in the book of Job, I am a wanderer, changing place after place and house after house, until I come unto the City and Mansion which is eternal.

4. Nevertheless if any be sick among you, let them send for the presbyters of the church that they may anoint them with oil of olive in the Name of the Lord, and the prayer of faith, and the going out of power, with the voice of thanksgiving, shall raise them up, if they are not detained by sin, of this or a former life. (92:4)

… I say, unto you there is no death to those who believe in the life to come. Death, as ye deemed it, is the door to life, and the grave is the gate to resurrection, for those who believe and obey. Mourn ye not, nor weep for them that have left you, but rather rejoice for their entrance into life.
2. As all creatures come forth from the unseen into this world, so they return to the unseen, and so will they come again till they be purified. Let the bodies of them that depart be committed to the elements, and the Father, who reneweth all things, shall give the angels charge over them, and let the presbyter pray that their bodies may rest in peace, and their souls awake to a joyful resurrection.
3. There is a resurrection from the body, and there is a resurrection in the body. There is a raising out of the life of the flesh, and there is a falling into the life of the flesh. Let prayer be made For those who are gone before, and For those that are alive, and For those that are yet to come, for all are One family in God. In God they live and move and have their being.
4. The body that ye lay in the grave, or that is consumed by fire, is not the body that shall be, but they who come shall receive other bodies, yet their own, and as they have sown in one life, so shall they reap in another. Blessed are they who have worked righteousness in this life, for they shall receive the crown of life. (94:1-4)

23. As in the inner so in the outer: as in the great so in the small. As above, so below: as in heaven so in earth. We believe in the Purification of the soul: through many births and experiences. The Resurrection from the dead: and the Life everlasting of the just. The Ages of Ages: and Rest in God forever.— [Amen]. (96:23)

19. And this by ascent of the soul into the spirit and the descent of the spirit into the soul. Who cometh from heaven, and is incarnate of the Virgin ever blessed, in Jesu-Maria and every Christ of God: and is born and teacheth the way of life and suffereth under the world rulers, and is crucified, and is buried and descendeth into Hell. Who riseth again and ascendeth into glory; from thence giving light and life to all. (96:19)

8. Put ye not off from day to day, and from cycle to cycle and eon to eon, in the belief, that when ye return to this world ye will succeed in gaining the mysteries, and entering into the Kingdom of Light. (65:8)

Joseph Smith’s views on reincarnation were a bit ambiguous, but he specifically clarified that he did not believe in the idea of being reborn from animal to human, and that many who profess to be “reincarnated famous religious figures are likely being led captive by evil spirits.


The Unity Perspective

Another channeled work gives an idea which I believe is remarkably helpful in reconciling eastern and western views of reincarnation and resurrection. This work expands upon the concept of group consciousness and an underlying unity among human consciousness. A concept which is touched on repeatedly in LDS and Biblical Scripture (refs.) but generally only explained in detail in Christian mysticism and esotericism.  The idea is that we as human beings often see ourselves as completely separate from one another, but that Higher beings looking down on us, see us as different aspects of the same being. As an example, if an individual cell within us had conscious thought, it might see itself as completely separate from its fellow biological cells. However, from the brain’s perspective, those cells are all simply different aspects of One being controlled within bounds by the brain through the nervous system. One cell might die away and another take its place, but the purpose and memory of that cell is stored in the brain—not just the cell. As the organism grows and the cells divide and multiply they grow further and further apart in location and function and these semi-conscious cells might come up with all sorts of crazy explanations to explain where they came from and where they go after death. But the truth is that their lack of knowledge of the unity that binds them prohibits them from even coming close to understanding the full picture.

In the Law of One and many other esoteric texts, mankind IS ONE organism, symbolized by the biblical Man Adam or the Hindu Manu/Atman. As he divides himself, veils and partitions are created between his progeny to give himself more evolutionary choices to experience himself. The “ego” of new age authors is a concept of separation of self from the whole, for the purpose of creating conflict and drama. But to follow our analogy to the body, the brain (highest beings) do not see these imaginary divisions… their higher perspective sees the unity of the whole organism.

Firstly, you must understand that the distinction between yourself and others is not visible to us. We do not consider that a separation exists between the consciousness-raising efforts of the distortion which you project as a personality and the distortion which you project as an other personality. Thus, to learn is the same as to teach… (LoO 1.10)





Additional Thoughts

Opposing views

Although many, if not most, modern channeled works speak of reincarnation there are many religions and modern channelled texts such as Oahspe which are adamant about the falsity of the idea of individuated consciousness re-entering the womb, except for instances of demon obsession.  To illustrate here are a few quotes, which echo the views held by many religions.

As I have quickened the seed of the first born, so will I quicken all seed to the end of the earth. And each and every man-child and woman-child born into life will I quicken with a new spirit, which shall proceed out of Me at the time of conception. Neither will I give to any spirit of the higher or lower heaven power to enter a womb, or a fetus of a womb, and be born again.  (Jehovah 6:21)

Suffice it, these spirits lost all sight of any higher heavens than to dwell on the earth; they knew no other. And they watched about when children were born, and obsessed them, driving hence the natural spirit, and growing up in the new body of the newborn, calling themselves re-incarnated; and these drujas professed that when they previously lived on earth they were great kings, or queens, or philosophers.  And they taught as their master, Osiris, the false, did: That there was no higher heaven than here on the earth, and that man must be re-incarnated over and over until the flesh became immortal. Not all of these spirits drove hence the natural spirit; but many merely engrafted themselves on the same body; and whilst such persons lived, these spirits lived with them and dwelt with them day and night; not knowing more than their mortal companion. And when such person died, behold, the druja went and engrafted itself on another child, and lived and dwelt with it in the same way; and thus continuing, generation after generation. (Wars 51:11-12)

O man, beware of angels who say: In heaven there is no organization, nor God, nor Holy Council, nor discipline, nor order, nor teaching, nor self-denial, or,  Who say: There is no God, no Jehovih, no government in heaven, or, Who say: There is no bondage after death; no place or condition of suffering, or, Who say: When thou diest thy spirit shall enter paradise and dwell in perpetual ease and glory.  Who say: Heaven is an endless summer land, with silvery rivers and golden boats for all, or, Who say: Eat, drink and enjoy thyself for the gratification of thine earthly passions, for when thou art dead thy path shall be straight to glory.  Who say: Heap up riches, for there is no punishment after death, or, Who say: Turn not thy thoughts into thine own soul to discover thy ungodliness, for when thou art dead thy spirit shall revel in bliss, or, Who say: The angel world is a place of progression without self-abnegation and good works, or, Who saith: Behold me, I am from the highest, most exalted sphere, or from a far-off star, or, Who saith: I have visited the planets, or, Who saith: Resurrection cometh by reincarnation–first a stone, then lead, then silver, then gold, then a tree, then a worm, then an animal and then man, or that a spirit re-entereth the womb, and is born again in mortality, or, Who saith: Blessed art thou; for a host of ancient spirits attend thee–thou hast a great mission.  For all of these are the utterances of the angels of the first resurrection. And though they may inspire great oratory and learned discourses, yet they are flatterers, and will surely lead thee into grief.  (Discipline 3:19-32)

Joseph Smith also seemed to echo similar views that those professing reincarnation are often possessed of demons; speaking of a traveling minister Robert Matthews he said,

“He said that he possessed the spirit of his fathers, that he was a literal descendant of Matthias, the Apostle, who was chosen in the place of Judas that fell; that his spirit was resurrected in him; and that this was the way or scheme of eternal life—this transmigration of soul or spirit from father to son.
I told him that his doctrine was of the devil, that he was in reality in possession of a wicked and depraved spirit, although he professed to be the Spirit of truth itself; and he said also that he possessed the soul of Christ. (Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7 Vols. 2:307)”

It certainly seems reasonable that this is often the case. That many channeled works are in fact deceptive spirits of the lower heavens feeding people’s egos with fabricated stories and bologna. However, there seems to be credible sources and valid global religions which hold this view and are not so easily discounted. I’v spent a lot of time trying to reconcile these very different predominate views and it occurs to me that, like most things, it is a difference in perspective.

In my opinion it all boils down to misconceptions in personality and ego.  As many biblical and religious texts allude to, and the law of one makes clear, those in the higher realms make little to no distinction between an individual and his close associates, or more especially one family.  Those in a family unit are seen as one individual or one individuated consciousness.  So although we see a huge distinction between ourselves, our parents, and our children, those in the higher densities do not.   Take these words in the Law of One material for example…

Firstly, you must understand that the distinction between yourself and others is not visible to us. We do not consider that a separation exists between the consciousness-raising efforts of the distortion which you project as a personality and the distortion which you project as an other personality. Thus, to learn is the same as to teach…

So in their perspective, one could say that we are reincarnated through our posterity or progeny.  As these groups raise to higher densities and are redeemed in unity, they form a collective consciousness where the thoughts and experiences of all are shared, and thus you could consider them reincarnated versions of each other.  So much as Mufasa and Rafiki said to Simba in the Lion King, our parents live in us and vise-versa.  The bible echo’s this idea of unity with the statement in Acts 17:28, speaking of God and ourselves it says, “In him we live and move and have our being”.  Thus we could say that all mankind is a reincarnation of Adam, the first man.  Or that we are all fragments of God, who has multiplied himself in an effort to know himself, which is essentially what parenthood is all about. I believe there is a great amount of both biblical and Mormon literature that symbolically seeks to teach this important principle.  The “sealing” or binding together in Mormon temples is essentially symbolically teaching the principle explained in detail in Oahspe, that in order to ascend or be redeemed, a group must redeem their progeny to at leas the 6th generation. This is because this is the only way to at-one or atone the division caused by the fall of man.  Mankind falls when they are divided, and is only saved when they are again re-united.  There are important psychological implications to this as well, in the ways that the experiences and characteristics which we demonize, desire or fear are perpetuated in our progeny. One who hates or fears homosexuals, or apostates, or whatever other thing will by design have a child, grand child or one of their future posterity with that trait or characteristic, and neither will be able to ascend to the higher heavens until they are reconciled.  Like Buddha and Jesus taught, we must overcome desire and fear in order to overcome. Through shared consciousness the “hater” ancestor will vicariously experience the thoughts and life of his progeny until he is purified and learns love, harmony and balance.

So it seems possible that with this line of thinking we can reconcile both the reincarnative and non-reincarnative doctrines.

Bringing it Together

-Show how if you understand a unity perspective, then someone who believes themselves to be the “reincarnated whoever” Its true even if it’s not true.  If you can reach through space and time and connect with dead people’s consciousness and break down the divisions between you where you can see each others thoughts, then who is who is only a matter of perspective.

-I believe the christian concept of “spiritual possession” is trying to teach this concept… quote js. and oahspe..

-but what if someone claims to be the reincarnated moses or buddha but obviously is not in a accord with anything jesus stood for.  Delusion is when someone thinks they are breaking through divisions and veils in order to head toward unity when in fact they are building additional ones and increasing separation.  It’s easy for the brain to spot delusion… an often difficult for individual cells–try not to judge unlovingly or you will likely be doing the same thing.  Lower man’s job is to divide. Lower religions job is to divide–growth spurs division.

-show that the christian concept of resurrection may be through birth or apparition. (people will have children in millennial new jerusalem, live to age of tree, etc..). Either way, resurrected states are more “unified” states of being so they break back through the divisions

-show that there are two resurrections.. “a resurrection in the body and a resurrection from the body”  I believe “from the body” is a type of apparition or translation in spirit to higher dimensions (like the general christian view), but “in the body” is reincarnation into the next grand cycle of the earth when it raises to a terrestrial glory.

-I believe that the LDS doctrine of family sealing and eternal progeny (D&C 132:19–32) is teaching a type of eternal reincarnation.  That families are sealed so that they can gain the “faith” or subconscious knowledge which governs our eternal progression which will allow them to be reincarnated into the same family structures in the next age (terrestrial/millennial age of earth.)        Through sealing, our loved ones will not be far in the next life if it is still what we really want.

-I believe the idea of celestial marriage where you will be “gods” who have “continuation of the seeds” or eternal progeny in the next life is teaching the idea that— just like in this life there are certain individuals like Abraham or Genghis Kong or the European Hasberg Line who literally have millions of descendants and maintain prominent ruling classes for thousands of years— that those who are most “righteous” (not by Mormon standards but by the collective consciousness of humanity or god’s standards) will be chosen to be those key historical figures in the next cycle.


Talk about Oahspe and how it has another possible interpretation of this. If the kingdom of God is a high heaven, Oahspe talks about how individuals in these heavens are constantly ‘falling’ back toward earth and seeking selfish earth things… but those who graduate to “etherean” or celestial worlds escape the earths gravity completely and have little threat of falling.

5 other accounts of “to go no more out”…. “who did sin that this man was born blind”, born again symbolism… wicked will inherit death… “mortal realms are only place death is inherited!…so of course they will be born again… people here in this mortal realm for different reasons as taught in creation drama, some are deceived, and some fall because they don’t want to leave their brides, and some fall simply to help…



Note that D&C 76 says of those in the Telestial Realm”,

106 These are they who are cast down to hell and suffer the wrath of Almighty God, until the fulness of times, when Christ shall have subdued all enemies under his feet, and shall have perfected his work;

Note that the D&C defines the “dispensation of the Fulness of Times” as starting with Joseph Smith and ending with the Coming of Christ. Thus those of the telestial ream are resurrected (reincarnated to earth?) at Christ’s coming. (see D&C 88:95–102)

Also D&C 43:18

18 For the day cometh that the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven; the heavens shall shake and the earth shall tremble, and the trump of God shall sound both long and loud, and shall say to the sleeping nations: Ye saints arise and live; ye sinners stay and sleep until I shall call again. (D&C 43:18)

D&C 43:18 sure seems to suggest this. Look at its wording as it suggests that entire nations play a part in cyclical resurrection,

18 For the day cometh that the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven; the heavens shall shake and the earth shall tremble, and the trump of God shall sound both long and loud, and shall say to the sleeping nations: Ye saints arise and live; ye sinners stay and sleep until I shall call again. (D&C 43:18)

This verse bares striking resemblance to the Eastern idea of cyclical rebirth of nations across certain “ages” or master cycles. Think of how much better sense certain aspects of the doctrine of resurrection make when we interpret the resurrection or “rising again” of cultures as a systematic cycle of rebirth during certain eras.

100 And again, another trump shall sound, which is the third trump; and then come the spirits of men who are to be judged, and are found under condemnation;
101 And these are the rest of the dead; and they live not again until the thousand years are ended, neither again, until the end of the earth [end of the age in many biblical translations]. (D&C 88:100–101)



The Magic Square of 11

Time, Times and Half Times

Many ancient cultures had a far different understanding of how the celestial “times and seasons” affect our planet, human biology and spirituality than our current societies. These cultures meticulously tracked the procession of the equinoxes in order to discover where the earth was in its Galactic orbit. They believed that the the location of our Solar System within the Galactic field affected mankind’s ability to communicate across time and space to alternate dimensions or “spirit worlds” where higher beings dwell and communicate knowledge through a complicated system of “veils”. The modern channeled text Oahspe, gives an enormous amount of information helping us to understand the cosmological and astronomical significance of of the “times” or “ages” mentioned in Christian, Hindu, Chinese and Mayan scripture.  The mysteries of biblical prophetic numbers is a huge topic, but I will try and give a bit of the insights I’ve gathered to lay the foundation for unraveling this huge topic.


-The numbers of prophecy are based on astronomical calculations. Specifically, they coincide with the location of our solar system in the Galactic field, and correspond to our planets rise and fall through the 3rd and toward the 4rth dimensions/densities (corresponding to the LDS concepts of Telestial and Terrestrial glories).  These “times” correspond to our sun’s solar 11 year solar cycle (wherein it flips polarity), and the manner in which it interacts with alternating galactic currents which govern our earth’s progression.  These fields determine the “overlap” of the dimensions which affects inter-dimensional communication—as well as the times of “harvest”, where beings from heaven are able to harvest or transport themselves and other souls from one dimension (or “glory” in LDS terminology) to another.

-For the last 2 cycles/ages, the length of a biblical prophetic “time” or cycle has been  about 667 years–or roughly 30×2 solar cycles. A complete harvest age is composed of 3 1/2 “times” (time, times, and half a time)–or roughly 2336 years (see Dan 8:14). Thus the times of Israel which span from God’s covenant with Abraham to the complete annihilation of Israel was roughly 2300 years; And the times of the Gentiles which spans from Christ’s covenant with Peter to the rebuilding of the Israeli temple and complete annihilation the Gentile (catholic) church will also be roughly 2300 years.

-The earth’s rotation and spin, change through time and are not always linearly relative in relation to our galactic orbit.  Before the time of Moses, this rate of change was far greater–so prophets have devised a “prophetic calendar” to preserve the symbolism of the numbers even though they fall out of alignment with “true time” for ancient dates. Additionally, the earth’s Spirit realm spins at a different rate than the surface of the earth, making the angel’s time different than the earth’s time (Oahspe teaches that 11 years on earth = 12 years in the 1st heaven).

-Within these times are countless types and subtypes–each to be revealed when the earth fully transitions to 4rth density (terrestrial glory/millennium in LDS/Christian terms). Just like a full day is composed of a day and a night, and a year is composed of summer and winter, each time, times and half time is counted twice–and represents an epoch of spiritual light and darkness. (corresponding to cosmological conditions which allow or disallow communication across the dimensions.

-Go through the 70 weeks of daniel, corresponding to the times between Ezra & Christ (for the times of Israel) and Luther and the rebuilding of the temple (for the times of the Gentiles).

-Go through the larger time, times and half time to show the periods of light and darkness. Each dawn of “light” is heralded by a wave of prophetic figures. Abraham, Po, Brahma & Jared–2100BC; then Moses, Capilya, Chine–1400BC; then Buddha, Ezra, Confucius/Ka’yu, Nephi–600BC; then Mohammed. use chart. Christ came at the fall equinox); Times of Gentiles represent the lowest point in earth’s 3rd density/telestial sojourn. The Jewish calendar seeks to symbolize the celestial calendar.



Enter the Magic Square

The Magic Square of 11

The magic square of 11 from the Gospel of the Holy Twelve is a cipher or key to unraveling many of the mystical numbers in the scriptures–it corresponds to the ~11 year solar cycle. In the text, Christ has his disciples stand in the formation of the magic square after assigning them all a number and name.  Note that the columns and rows add up to 671, which is the biblical length of a Time or “Dan” of our cycle. Thus a full Time/Dan’ha would be 1342 which is one week more than the number 1335 given us in Dan. 12:12. Also of interest is the fact that 671 is a multiple of 11 (61×11), which is the length of a solar cycle as well as the number of the apostles (subtracting the one “who should be counted one of them by man, but was not of them”- GHT 68:18, 76:13). Oahspe also reminds us of the relationship between the numbers 12 and 11.

1. That man might find still further evidence of the earth’s wark belts (magnetosphere), I created the nearest one with different densities, so that not every year on earth would be alike as to heat and cold. And in certain cycles of Dan I condense the first wark belts so that the sun seemeth to mortals as if in eclipse. For it is upon this belt that My cycles of dan’ha give either light or darkness to mortals spiritually.
2. Let man compute My times for his own profit; I created the first wark to gain in rotation faster than the earth, one year for every eleven. So that when the wark hath made twelve of its own years, the earth shall have completed eleven years.

Thus the solar cycle is 12 years in the 4th density Spirit World were revelation to earth originates–but 11, is the true base number of earthly prophesy as mentioned in this verse.

10/14.4. Accordingly, every thirty three years after that, there was one migration of a group from the Lord’s first resurrection … In accordance with that, the light of dan fell on two hundred years, four hundred years, five hundred years, six hundred years and one thousand years, which became the base of prophecy for each cycle from that time forward, for a long period.

Now in Israel, as in other cultures there were two calendars and numeric systems used. As would be expected from the aforementioned verse, the earthly base number is 11 (according with the Solar Cycle), but the heavenly base number is 12. Accounting for this, early Egypt used a calendar with 11 months for earthly secular things, but the Jews and other groups used a calendar of 12 months for spiritual things. Our current society has adopted the 12 month “spiritual base number” for our calendar, even though the eleven month calendar would be exact.

3.God said: My people shall reckon their times according to the place and the people where they dwell. And they did this. Hence, even the tribes of Israel had two calendars of time, the long and the short.
4. To events of [earthly] prophecy there was also another calendar, called the ode, signifying sky-time, or heavenly times. One ode was equivalent to eleven long years; three odes, one spell, signifying a generation; eleven spells one Tuff. Thothma, the learned man and builder of the great pyramid, had said: As a diameter is to a circle, and as a circle is to a diameter, so are the rules of the seasons of the earth. For the heat or the cold, or the drouth or the wet, no matter, the sum of one eleven years is equivalent to the sum of another eleven years. One spell is equivalent to the next eleventh spell. And one cycle matcheth every eleventh cycle. Whoever will apply these rules to the earth shall truly prophesy as to drouth and famine and pestilence, save wherein man contraveneth by draining or irrigation. And if he apply himself to find the light and the darkness of the earth, these rules are sufficient. For as there are three hundred and sixty-three years in one tuff, so are there three hundred and sixty-three days in one year, besides the two days and a quarter when the sun standeth still on the north and south lines.

There’s a lot of information packed into that verse. First we see the reasoning for a “long and short” count calendar or numbering system. This is relevant, as archaeologist have found this to be common in many ancient civilizations (especially MesoAmerica), but sometimes we forget how easy mixups in these differing calendar systems can distort the dates we find in ancient histories, tablets and even the Bible. Secondly we see one of Egypt’s calendar’s as it was dualistically used with the Egyptian Great Year.  It is defined as 1 ode = 11 years, 3 odes = 1 spell, and 11 spells = 1 tuff which is 363 days or years. Perhaps it easier to see the relationship between these great cycles if we diagram them;

1 Ode = Week (with 11 days per week)
1 Spell = Month (with 3 weeks per month)
1 Tuff = Year (with 11 months per year)

This gives us 363 days per year with 2.25 intercalary days placed at the winter and summer solstice. It’s a perfect calendar with great symmetry, and I believe was used by Israel after they left Egypt for a time and should still be used to this day. The answer to many of the prophetic numbers comes when we combine this earthly calendar with the Jubilee/Enochean calendar or prophetic 12 month 360 day calendar given to prophets and used in the lower heavens.  The Maya borrowed this system from Egypt also using a long and short count calendar (which modern archeologists have completely misinterpreted)


Laying the Foundation

So to get a better understanding of all these numbers, let’s back up a bit and look at some of the scriptures we have which present the riddles.

Dan 9:25–26 gives 7 weeks, plus 62 weeks, plus 1 week. Note that 62 is one week more than the magic squares base number of 61 which was Christ’s number in the middle. The prophesy is all to tell when Messiah will come which corresponds to the destruction and rebuilding of the temple and Israel and a nation. So find the answers… they’re all there…

Article unfinished below…… finish this some time……

This can also be translated “Time, yea two times, and a half time” (ref)
Hopefully we all see this is a math equation.

x + 2x + 1/2x = 7 or more properly =7.5 if x= 2.143

2.And he placed the sun in the midst and made lines thence to the stars, with explanations of the powers of the seasons on all the living.
3.And he gave the times of Jehovah, the four hundred years of the ancients, and the halftimes of dan, the base [number] of prophecy; the variations of thirty-three years; the times of eleven; and the seven and a half times of the vortices [orbits/frequencies] of the stars, so that the seasons might be foretold, and famines averted on the earth.

This is the equation to determine the time of a dan… and is solvable only if you have the total length of a Dan’ha. It may be 7.5 for this cycle, but that is just a guess presuming that Oahspe is correct. At any rate the base number of prophesy is most likely 61, the central or “Christ” number of the magic square for our suns cycle length which is eleven (caused by the polarity with Jupiter & Saturn whose orbits make 11 according to the equation).

At any rate this is fun math to play with and if it can be figured out, we will know the time of the end of the “Times” (remember the equation) “of the Gentiles”. Anyway, im just rambling, and I’ll have to complete this post some time with all the dates from Daniel and Ben Kathyrn and Revelation, and the Egyptian calender.

Its all coming together.

Note that history will help show where the below seasons fall. This type is hidden in the Hebrew Calendar and is easy to discern. In terms of harvest, Israel is planted in late fall with the winter wheat and grows his roots in winter, other cultures are planted in spring and harvested in fall.

18/12.8. On all corporeal worlds, for every race He created, Jehovah has provided these two seasons: a season for the development of the corporeal senses, and a season for the development of the spiritual senses. To find the mean between these is to find The millennium (Kosmon), which lies far in the future.
18/13.4. For such seasons appear in all peoples under the sun; a season of belief; a season of unbelief. And with the believing is the practice of truth and love; and with the unbelieving is the practice of great research and learning, with cruelty and disputation.
18/13.5. Osire said: Send for my resurrection, O Jehovah; I have uprooted the evil of idol worship, the extreme that follows too much belief.

1. Jehovah said: Let a sign be given to the inhabitants of the earth that they may comprehend dan’ha in the firmament of heaven. For even as I bequeathed to the earth a time for creating the living, and a time for angels to come and partake of the first fruits of mortality and immortality, so shall man at certain times and season receive testimony from My hosts in heaven.
2. And Jehovah caused the earth, and the family of the sun to travel in an orbit, the circuit of which requireth of them four million seven hundred thousand years. And he placed in the line of the orbit, at distances of three thousand years, spiritual (etherean) lights, the which places, as the earth passeth through, angels from the second heaven come into its earthly (corporeal) presence. As embassadors they come, in companies of hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands, and these are called the spiritual (etherean) hosts of the Most High.
3. Not as single individuals come they; not for a single individual mortal come they. And Jehovah gave this sign to man on earth; which is to say: In the beginning of the light of dan’ha, the spirits of the newly dead shall have power to take upon themselves the semblance of earthly (corporeal) bodies, and appear and talk face to face with mortals. Every three thousand years gave Jehovah this sign on earth, that those who learned the powers and capacities of such familiar spirits, might bear testimony in regard to the origin of man on earth.
4. Jehovah said: And when it shall come to pass in any of the times of dan’ha that these signs are manifest, man shall know that the hosts of the Most High come soon after. Let him who will become wise, enumerate the great lights of My serpent, for in such times I set aside things that are old, and establish My chosen anew.
14. And God and his Lords shall have dominion from two hundred years to a thousand or more years; but never more than three thousand years. According to the regions of dan (light) into which I bring the earth, so shall be the terms of the office of My Gods and My Lords.
15. And God and his Lords shall raise up officers to be their successors; by him and them shall they be appointed and crowned in My name.
16. At the termination of the dominion of My God and his Lords they shall gather together in these, My bound heavens, all such angels as have been prepared in wisdom and strength for resurrection to My spiritual (etherean) kingdoms. And these angels shall be called Brides and Bridegrooms to Jehovah, for they are Mine and in My service. And to God and his Lords, with the Brides and Bridegrooms, will I send down from etherea ships in the time of dan; by My spiritual (etherean) Gods and Goddesses shall the ships descend to these heavens, and receive God and His Lords with the Brides and Bridegrooms, and carry them up to the exalted regions I have prepared for them.
17. And all such as ascend shall be called a Harvest unto Me, through My God and Lords. And the time of My Harvests shall be according to each dan, which is two hundred years, four hundred years, six hundred years, and five hundred years; and these shall be called My lesser cycles because they are the times of the tables of prophecy which I give unto My servants.

[The above verses in Oahspe are a bit misleading. It paints a picture that the lights of dan are floating out in space at set locations like the spokes of a wheel, perfectly set every 3000 years time/distance in the great circle of the solar systems orbit. This is not likely, elsewhere in Oahspe it is more specific showing that these etherean “lights” are actually celestial bodies or could even be called etherean worlds which resemble comets to earth from afar. Most likely these etherean worlds/celestial bodies are also orbiting the sun like the planets (but far more eccentric and obliquely), and come back into the inner solar system with a period of ~3000 years. Thus the time of Melchizedek, Christ and Messiah are times of the “coming of the Lord”. And event which Joseph Smith taught many will say “is a comet”. To the righteous he comes with 10,000 of his angels to translate the righteous and take them away to his heavenly kingdom. To the wicked he is the destroying angel, because all who are left behind are left with the destruction this object causes to the corporeal earth and its heavens.]

6 generation= 1 dan, 7 or 7.5 dans= 1 dan’ha, 1 dan’ha = ~3000 yrs (give or take), a generation can span between 33 yrs (for a 200 yr dan) and 100 yrs (for a 600 yr dan), and a dan’ha can span between 1400 yrs (for a 200 yr dan) and 4200 yrs (for a 600 yr dan). I think it is quite possible that the length of the current Dan can be computed by the Sun’s mean polarity cycle. At present the length of the Solar Cycle is ~11 years (see wiki article for explanation of our sun’s polarity reversals). As you may have noted from many references already mentioned, it seems that 11 years as a solar “week” and 33 years as a solar “month” is a recurring theme in oahspe.

10/14.3 …Thirty three years were allotted to these Lords’ kingdoms for a resurrection, because thirty three is the division of dan corresponding to one hundred dans to each cycle.


-First cycle is a dispensation (of Dan). It is an intra-planetary cycle. It is the smallest major cycle and occurs multiple times per Dan. It is created by a celestial bodies ascending and descending within our own planetary vortex. (Elijah, Joseph Smith, Etc, each 200-600 years.)
-Second cycle is the destroyer (of Dan’ha). It is an extra-planetary cycle. It is the planet X/etherean world/celestial bodies, which brings great destruction to the wicked but salvation and resurrection to the righteous. (Enoch, Melchizedek, Christ, Messiah, Etc, each ~2400-3800 years.)
-Third cycle is the destruction/recreation cycle. It is a solar cycle. It occurred at the flood/creation. It is caused by something interacting with our Sun, and not just a light of Dan or celestial bodies or etherean world. (Adam, Noah, End of word, each 7000-XXXX years.)


Dan’Ha Lengths Given in Oahspe 

-Kosman to Moses/Capella = 3,400 years
-Moses to Abraham/Brahma = 2,400 years
-Abraham to Melchizedek = 3,100 years
-Melchizedek to Osiris = 3,300 years
-Osiris to Thor = 3,200 years
-Thor to Apollo = 2,800 years)
-Apollo to Sue = 3,200 years
-Sue to Aph = 3,600 years

35/D.58. Dan’ha (Adamic). The etherea, the highest place in ethereal worlds. Jehovah said: The sun I made as the head of a serpent, and his phalanx I made as the body of a serpent; thus I made the great corporeal serpent. To him I gave a circuit to travel in, and I numbered his time a thousand tuos and seven aka and four bi’jus, for the sun coil. [Equal to four million seven hundred thousand years –Ed.] I have placed my A’ji and my Ji’ay in many places on the circuit, but I have placed my Dan’ha only in one thousand six hundred places. (A dan’ha cycle of time is about three thousand years, sometimes more, sometimes less.) From the millennium (Kosmon), the present time, back to Moses and Capilya, alias Capella, three thousand four hundred years; from Moses and Capilya to Brahma and Abraham, two thousand four hundred years; from Brahma and Abraham to Melchizedek, three thousand one hundred years; from Melchizedek to Osiris the first, three thousand three hundred years; from Osiris to Thor, three thousand two hundred years; from Thor to Apollo, two thousand eight hundred years; from Apollo to Sue, three thousand two hundred years; from Sue to Aph, three thousand six hundred years.

Two Types of People

There are two types of people in this universe….

-there are chaotic polarizers and,
-there are harmonious unifiers…

Polarizers are selfish haters…
Unifiers are unselfish lovers…

Ask yourself which camp you are supporting.

All the matter in the universe is in motion, it is either moving outward, and expanding affected by repulsive forces moving further apart from the ONE TRUE CENTER pushing forward the lines of its individuality.

Or it is moving inward, contracting together affected by the unifying, attractive forces. Moving toward each other and toward ONENESS in the ONE TRUE CENTER.

Just as each sun is a portal between dimensions, pulling gross matter in one end as gravity and explosively giving the refined matter out the other as light, so also are the great intelligences as well as each of us. Those who give on one side of the transfiguration, take once they ascend to the next level.

But there is a harmonious set of opposites and a non harmonious polarity. Those who have reached the at-one-ment, have learned to lovingly and harmoniously give in love and receive in faith.

But the inharmonious opposites are more than just darkness, they are chaos. They are incomplete. They are the cacophony. They begrudgingly give and forcefully take. They consist of the same polar opposites of the righteous, but they have not yet harmonized them. They have not yet atoned them. This is true evil; evil is not the opposite of all that is “good”, it is the un-atoned, un-harmonized, incomplete, chaotic expanse.

The orthodox may say that Christ was the founder of their religion. The unorthodox or anti-religious would say Christ came to condemn the hypocrisy of established religion. Some might say he came to teach people to change what they are into something better. In reality, he came to harmonize. He was the great harmonizer. A master composer that came to teach each individual to play his own instrument in a manner that they can be part of a beautiful symphony. He did not come to make people change instruments, but to play in a manner that they could harmonize. This is righteousness, because this spawns unity. Of those the father gave him “none of them were lost”, but the one who refused to harmonize. Christ took each of the twelve apostles representing each of the twelve tribes, with all of their unique histories, sounds, colors, strengths and weaknesses and harmonized them into a rainbow of praise and psaltery. A love story of unification. He led them all into the prayer circle where they all displayed the signs of their differing paths of progression and harmonized them into ONE body, an eternal family united in love to each other and therefore ready to unite also to the Father.

This is righteousness. It is the atonement. It is the key to exaltation and eternal lives. It is a true family. So many on earth have cried “here I am”, “I am the gate”, “I have the keys”. “I have the true religion, and if you act and be like this you will be exalted”. The set of stone cold laws embedded in the world’s religions are not the representation of “perfection” that Christ came to declare. They are idols. And although idols serve important purposes in and of themselves they have no life and thus are damned to crumble into dust. The letter worketh death, but the Spirit breatheth life. Christ did not start an earthly church, for on earth all is death, thus his kingdom was “not of this world”. It was Holy Peter who was called to start the Holy Church just as it was ____ who was called to anti-church or anti-thesis.

Christ’s church was his body. It was not a temple carved with earthly hands. It was a living entity created by the father which could not be killed by man for it was not created by man. He perfected that body by bringing all of its members into harmony with the head. He at-oned his body and was therefore exalted with it. Body and soul, head, foot, hand and heart atoned into the living image of the Father. Can you foresee the day when Christ comes to atone the earthly body of Christ to an even higher degree? Will you be harmonized or atoned? Or do you hold enmity for the lesser members? How oft has the head said to the foot “I have no need of thee”. Likewise the hand to the heart, “I can do better on my own”. But an incomplete or imperfect body cannot be exalted.

The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was division. It was the polarizing force of opposites. It is division which perpetuates the earthly drama of death, just as it is Satan who perpetuates the garden drama of the fall. Division ends in death. Unity ends in life. You must unite with the Blood, the Water and the Spirit to be born again into life. You came forth from earth, water and spirit separated from your mother into a fleshy illusion of individuality. The two came together and made a third, and out of one came two. And yet the two are in reality still only one. As the death of separateness we call life was created by immerging from the water and the blood and the spirit, so we must once again be immersed in the water, blood and spirit to be reborn into life. This rebirth occurs when we die to the world of the flesh; when we transcend the illusion of separateness perpetuated by the fruit of that tree. Its desirable taste brings a very undesirable aftertaste, to help all men see that everything has its opposite. But when you are ready to atone the opposites you can once again partake of the unifying tree of life. It is the sword of justice which guards that tree and keeps man from atoning. But Christ has overcome the demands of justice, so if you will but become one with his body the sword will have no power to keep you from the fruit of life. If you have had enough of the pain and pleasure of the tree of death, simply allow yourself to be absorbed into the body of Christ. As you partake of his body and blood, he will partake of yours. As you put away the prideful, enmity causing aspects of your of your ego and personality he will harmonize you into his more complete body. This is not done by brute effort or by flowery guilt, it is done by searching out the polarizing opposites. Once you have truly become conscious of them and realize how they perpetuate each-other, they will melt away like the ice from before the sun. You are not trying to destroy the opposites any more than the Father would seek to destroy his children. The Father loves his children and just wants them to play nice. So to, if you try to eradicate your “perceived” virtues and vices based on the perceived values you or the stone cold law have given them you will fail. It is not eradication, but atonement. How can eradication, war or destruction breed any fruit but death? You must be a unifier. You must acknowledge them as your children, and therefore holy children of the Father, and bring them into balance. Once you have balanced them, they will come together into the holy center of the circle, embrace each-other and atone.

Every virtue has a counter-virtue. Every gift comes with a curse. We have all partaken of the fruit of that tree, have we learned its lessons yet? Everything and everyone has its opposite. Are you still polarizing your opposites because you haven’t learned the atonement? Put down your pride and become a unifier, a harmonizer, a Christ. Bring them together and they will cease to be evil. Bring them from the darkness of their extremes, into the light of the center. From the dark corners of the square to the family relationship of the circle. The circle of love and light and truth.

You must love anyone you have ever hated, you must bring together any you have ever separated. It may seem an impossible task, but with Christ, all things are possible…

Do not twist these truths to fit your idol. Do not carve them into your favorite stone. Let them slowly distill upon your soul, until you transcend the veil between the Father and the Son in the middle of the circle.